Leading with Joy: Tiera Click on Mental Wellness, Authenticity & the Courage to Be Yourself
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Speaker 2:I am so happy to have in our studio today, Ms. Tiera Click. She's the founder and CEO of When the Mind Clicks LLC. Today, are exploring a topic that affects every aspects of our lives, but one that often goes unspoken and that is the mental health and its connection to leadership. So welcome Tiera.
Speaker 2:Hi, hello, hello. So glad to have you here at the Block Power Hour. We're going to be talking about whether someone's running a business, leading a team or raising a family, mentoring young people, or simply trying to navigate life's challenges. Those are a lot of things that we encounter in our daily lives, right? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And so leadership, it begins long before anyone gives you that title and it begins with how you show up for yourself and the people around you. Our guest today believes that true leadership starts from within. She helps people break through imposter syndrome, self sabotage, burnout, and the pressures of trying to be everything for everyone. I know that too well. Through coaching, speaking and leadership development, she helps individuals rediscover their authentic selves and find genuine joy in their journey.
Speaker 2:Again, joining us today is Ms. Tiera Click, founder and a joy strategist of When the Mind Clicks. Again, welcome Tiera.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me, Sarah.
Speaker 2:It's such a pleasure. I want to learn more about you and I love the fact about finding joy in leadership because it can be a daunting task to be a leader, right? Absolutely. And we're hearing more and more of people taking sabbaticals because it's so well needed. Tell us about your journey and what inspired you to create When the Mind Clicks?
Speaker 2:And that's a great name by the way.
Speaker 1:Everything Clicks, thank you so much. Yeah. So I decided to start this journey to support people who are just like me, like minded individuals who are placed in leadership positions, but want to have a good quality of life while they do it. I used to work in corporate. All the positions I was in, I was in leadership positions, and it was awesome.
Speaker 1:But I said I wanted to build something for myself and go a little beyond what I was already doing and implement some of that creativity and my own personality and possess. So after studying and getting my master's in psychology, studying communication, and just learning more about people overcoming my own trauma and being a leader in my own right, I decided to create When the Mind Clicks to support other individuals on the same journey as me because all the learning I've done was for myself and now I'm ready to share it with other people.
Speaker 2:Excellent, and so as the joy strategist, that immediately captures the attention, right? And so what actually does joy strategist mean and what does it look like in your practice?
Speaker 1:Yes, so being a joy strategist, I strategically help others achieve joy. I actually developed a framework called the gears of joy. And the framework is gear zero through six. Gear zero is when you're in survival mode. And I help you to regulate your emotions, you regulate your nervous system, get out of survival mode so you're not so reactive.
Speaker 1:Right? Then you go to gear one, which is resilience, returning to yourself, bouncing back, powering through. Next is gear two, which is regulation. Okay? Being able to notice, manage, and understand how you're showing up.
Speaker 1:Gear three is reconnection. When you begin reconnecting with yourself, reconnecting with the people around you, reconnecting with your goals, your dreams. Gear four is antifragility. That is coming back stronger because of adversity. So resilience is returning to yourself being able to make it through.
Speaker 1:Antifragility is a term coined by Nassim Taleb, and that is to return stronger because of what you went through. Next is gear five, which is embodiment of joy. You are now experiencing joy internally and able to actually feel and achieve that alignment. And gear six is generative joy. That is when you are now a beacon and you are overflowing, making an impact because of your joy, becoming a model because of it, uplifting people because they are seeing the way you're operating and moving throughout life.
Speaker 1:And that is the strategy to joy. Wow.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for being so thoughtful and thorough on the process of that. For many people, it's hard to just overcome the first step. So what do you do to get them through just that first step?
Speaker 1:Getting through the first step, the survival mode, is getting to know yourself. It's getting to know how you react, the way you become triggered in certain situations where we self sabotage or contribute to distance or contribute to some of the angst in our relationships. So just being aware of who we are, but also noticing our strengths, noticing where we show up well, getting out of survival mode so that we're not constantly reactive in fight, flight, freeze, or fawn mode so that we can actually start to build a foundation toward joy and cultivating the life that you want for yourself. So we definitely start with that space.
Speaker 2:Was there anyone that gave you a bit more of a challenge and a struggle through that first process? Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I've been in the mental and behavioral health field for over eleven years, and there have definitely been court mandated individuals who weren't ready to out of survival mode, and I've had people who were looking for someone to help them get out of that and who were absolutely willing to show up and do the work. So I've worked with all kinds of populations.
Speaker 2:Okay. From a to z on that. Absolutely. Okay. And so when you get them through to the final step, what does that kind of look like where they are really experienced the joy through their leadership?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. When you get to gear six, that generative joy, you can sort of think of yourself as a battery or a solar panel. Your joy is starting to energize the space around you. You become a model, a mirror, a reflection, and it just becomes contagious. And when you get there, that last step is completely up to you whether you step into that that space of joy.
Speaker 1:Because at that point, it is something that you will be fully embodying and wanting to show up that way. So there has to be a desire there. Mhmm. There has to be a want to be in that frequency. And when you're there, it's just it's a beautiful way to live and it's just free flowing.
Speaker 2:Free flowing. I mean, you know, we all dream of that time and space where we can really be able to operate in that free flowing environment. A lot of times it eludes us, you know? And so we're often dealing with, because you know many successful people, many, and a lot of times when I speak to people, it's usually conveying that you're not alone because you can really feel like it's just all upon you and you're just out here on an island by yourself, but that's not true. There are many, many, many.
Speaker 2:Most successful people are struggling with that internally. So where in that process do you feel from the one through six, do you feel is the most challenging process to get through?
Speaker 1:The most challenging to get through? I think survival mode is the most challenging to get out of because it's so unfamiliar. There's so many things we're used to and familiar with. We stay in that comfort zone, and sometimes our brains don't even allow us to break that habit or that pattern until we actually want it. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:But the hardest to probably get to is that reconnection. Being, you know, clear on how to reconnect with yourself, reconnect with your essence, your goals, your dreams, the people around you. All of these things are very important, but it is hard to achieve that. Sometimes people feel shame because of how they used to show up. They're anchoring themselves to their past.
Speaker 1:Some people don't feel deserving of going after the goals or the dreams that they want. Some people are having a hard time reconnecting with the people around them or even themselves. So I would say that one might be the most difficult.
Speaker 2:Okay. And how about just external influences or things going on around us? How do we manage all of that? Things that are really also out of our control too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that comes along. I think when there's so many things that are out of your control, that's where gear two comes in, regulation. Learning to regulate during challenges, things that are out of your control because we can't
Speaker 2:control Well, do you regulate? Do you meditate? Do you maybe write a list or kind of a journal? What do you tell people to do to regulate?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one's tricky, but there is an answer. Everyone has a different personality and level of capacity. So different regulation tools work for different people. Right? Someone who's extremely logical and analytical might take a different set of tools than someone who's more of empathetic and creative and you know, might be willing to try more grounding exercises.
Speaker 1:So being mindful of your personality and your capacity is very important. But to regulate just getting down to the bear of it all is to be able to notice what is happening inside of you. Notice your emotions as specifically as possible. Not just I'm sad. I feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 1:I feel disappointed. I'm grieving. I feel rejected. I feel neglected. What brand of sadness can you actually notice what is happening?
Speaker 1:A problem well stated is a problem half solved. So if you know what is happening, then I can show up for you that much better. You can show up for yourself that much better.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, know, again, like you said, each person can deal with things in their own kind of way, but you do have to find out what works for you. We have so much more to talk about. I know that this resonates with someone out there. If you're listening, especially if you are in a leadership role.
Speaker 2:So come back, listen to what more we have with our guests in this house today, Ms. Tiera Click, the founder of When the Mind Clicks. This is Sarah Harris on the Block Power Hour and we will be right back. We are back. Thank you for continuing to listen in.
Speaker 2:I'm so happy to have in the studio today, Tiera Click. Again, she is the founder and a joy strategist for When the Mind Clicks LLC. Thank you again for coming in today. We're so happy to have you. I was reading that you have a motto and it is give yourself time.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that because we don't do that often a lot, right? So why is that a model for you?
Speaker 1:Give yourself time is because we're all human, reminding to give yourself some grace, things take time to learn, nothing's going to be fixed overnight, planting a seed, you're not going to see the fruits the next day. So just reminding people that when they're on their journey of growth and healing to give yourself time and actually be patient with the process, I think that's super important.
Speaker 2:Excellent. For me, I feel like we're always just running from here to there, checking things off of our checklist, right? We put stuff on the calendar, we look and say, okay, this is what we have next to do. And we, you know, we just get in the car and we go, or we log onto the zoom. How many Zooms do you do a week?
Speaker 2:I think we do a lot, right? So being able to check into yourself and give yourself that space and time to clear your mind and think, I think that that's excellent. What is something that you do to give yourself time in that space?
Speaker 1:I'd say slowing down and actually scheduling out my rest sometimes. Sometimes I need to actually remind myself, just take a break at this time.
Speaker 2:What about the impromptu or what have you? Are you an impromptu person?
Speaker 1:I can be, you know, I'm trying to work out of that I used to be completely impromptu. Okay, well
Speaker 2:you can't go overboard, right? Right. It can lead to procrastination of some sort. Absolutely. Me, I know that I love to just kind of take a break.
Speaker 2:I will either pop in my earphones, listen to some music, go and take a ride around, step out for a minute, take a walk or something like that. So I just love that because I think that we don't take care of ourselves enough. So I really love that you talk about give yourself some time, even if it's making a decision, right? If you don't be forced or have to do that. So now we wanna explore why leadership is much bigger than a job title and uncover some of the hidden mental health challenges that many leaders experience, but rarely discuss.
Speaker 2:So can you give us a little bit on that about what you feel like we don't typically talk about, but we often are experiencing?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. So with leadership being more than a title, I firmly believe that a leader is anyone whose education, healing, growth will have an impact on the people around them. If you doing better, growing, healing, learning more impacts the people around you, that automatically places you in the position of a leader and has you, you know, displaying those leadership qualities.
Speaker 2:And when you are in the leadership, is it good to seek other people's advice and then kind of glean something off
Speaker 1:of that? Absolutely, we're humans, interconnected, you know, and I think it's wise to seek counsel.
Speaker 2:You have that circle, the circle of people that, you know, you lean on that you really trust about their advice and everything. Yeah, absolutely. And you often say that if your healing, growth or education impacts someone else, you're a leader. Explain that perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just displays a certain level of influence. People being willing to look to you or you being a model to others and that's a leadership quality. So, you know, when you're doing better and that impacts the people around you, that automatically places you in the leadership category.
Speaker 2:And why do you think people, a lot of times people have a hard time to feel themselves as leaders? I mean, that comes in that, I guess that imposter syndrome or something.
Speaker 1:Right? 100%. It's absolutely imposter syndrome or even sometimes self worth, self esteem, not feeling you deserve it. Maybe some suppressed emotion of what you think about what it means to claim that you're a leader, you know, trying to stay humble, quote unquote.
Speaker 2:Right. And some of the most common forms of imposter syndrome that you encountered, is there any example of someone that you saw encountered that and how they dealt with it?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. So imposter syndrome, that's a whole, that's a beast in itself. Yeah. People feel like they don't deserve to be in certain spaces. I think a lot of times the most frequently I see it is with gender, like being the only woman in a male dominated field or something like that, or age being the youngest or the oldest person in a particular group or field.
Speaker 1:A lot of times those individuals end up feeling a sense of imposter syndrome being in that community or space, sitting at the board meeting with people who are in a different demographic or age group than them. You know, I noticed that a lot in those sort of areas, but you have to just notice why you're there, right? You're not there for no reason.
Speaker 2:And what steps would you give them to step into that leadership, you know, so that they can feel their full potential?
Speaker 1:I would say, look at the evidence, right? The evidence is you are at that table and there's a reason. Would say work on self-concept. That's your appraisal of yourself, who you believe you are, enhance that and you'll dominate anywhere.
Speaker 2:We always talk about having a seat at the table, right? And so I tend to wonder, it was like, when you finally get that seat at the table, what are you going to do? It's like really being fully present in there and knowing that yes, you deserve to be there. I think that that's a good part of it that people have a hard time because do they feel like they even deserve to be there? And when you are, like I said before, knowing that many successful people are feeling the same ways.
Speaker 2:There are many examples where failure has led to, you know, a winning place, Absolutely. And so those are just the steps to the success. And so, you know, know that you, yes, you deserve to be there and keep that in your foremind that the doors will be open to you for the reason that you deserve to be there.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And that's your right. And I think that's why it's so important that in our workshops that we do in group settings, people share what they're going through because you'll notice you're not alone. We feel so isolated in our experiences sometimes, but when people share in group settings, realize, oh, I'm not the only one who was thinking that way.
Speaker 2:I think that that is a thing that you really need to do is to make sure that you're around others that are going through the same thing for you. So I appreciate you even bringing that up because group settings are an amazing way to be able to overcome these things. And so how can leaders begin to recognize when they're operating from fear instead of purpose?
Speaker 1:Yeah, how to notice you're operating from fear instead of purpose? I think see if you're being reactive, not giving yourself space between the action you're about to take and the thought that just came up. You know? Being able to pause is a really powerful tool. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And when you realize you're not pausing, you're just executing, go, go, go, go, go, no room for thought or filling your emotion. I think you notice you're in a really reactive space and that's like kind of more in that survival mode response.
Speaker 2:Is a pause uncomfortable? That's why I did that.
Speaker 1:Right. Right. It actually can be. It psyches people out. It can be.
Speaker 1:You know, it really does psych people out because it gets a little uncomfortable, but that is a beautiful opportunity to be uncomfortable and sort of grow in that pause, you know, and think of, oh, what's next. So yeah, that's funny, I love that.
Speaker 2:You're like, what
Speaker 1:is she doing there?
Speaker 2:Right, right. No, but for sure, you really have to kind of like, in any type of situation, how would you react and how would you respond to it? That is a test of a true leader too, that just really come in to know who you are and how you would deal with these kinds of things. And so tell me a little bit more about your background in terms of leading into all of this kind of work and intersection of mental health with leadership.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, like I shared earlier, over eleven years in mental and behavioral health field, I've been a behavioral therapist, forensic psychologist. I worked in residential treatment, crisis response. But now as a mental health educator, I'm just stepping in a more creative space where I can share my knowledge, my education, my background. So I've worked with all kinds of populations, but right now, like I said, we're targeting leaders, whether it's a parent, leader of the classroom, leader in your organization, those people making an impact.
Speaker 2:And when the mind clicks is your company. And so what kind of services and what specifically are you doing when the mind clicks?
Speaker 1:It's a mental health and self improvement based leadership development organization. We offer workshops, seminars, individual sessions, and additional resources. We have a TikTok, a YouTube, when the mind clicks. You can find me on all social media. And we have some journals and workbooks as well.
Speaker 1:So some resources you can use as you're gaining education.
Speaker 2:Please refresh my memory, but you were a speaker at a particular event and it's escaping my brain, but you do a number of speaking opportunities. How is that for you?
Speaker 1:Absolutely, yeah. I love speaking engagements. They're so amazing. You really get into a flow when you're on the stage. I recently did an event, Reclaim Wellness.
Speaker 2:That's what it was. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes. That was the most recent speaking engagement.
Speaker 2:Okay. That was with Rhonda Jackson.
Speaker 1:With Rhonda. Yes. Bless her. I love me some Rhonda.
Speaker 2:She's a dynamo, isn't she? Yes. I say Rhonda, I just cannot keep up with you.
Speaker 1:Right. Right. She'd be moving.
Speaker 2:Okay. For sure. For sure. We do have much more to talk about. When we come back, we're going to take a deeper look at the connection between mental health and leadership performance and discuss how stress, burnout and nervous system regulation affects how we show up in the world.
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Speaker 2:Welcome back. I am so delighted to have in the studio today. Our guest is Ms. Tiera Click. She is the founder and a joy strategist for When the Mind Clicks.
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Speaker 2:So what are some of the hidden mental health challenges you commonly see among leaders?
Speaker 1:A lot of burnout, anxiety, some underlying depression, imposter syndrome, just overthinking, you know, and cognitive distortions, just warped ways of thinking and the way you're perceiving the world around you that causes you to either be really offended by things or feel over consumed by things, catastrophize situations, all of those sort of things impact leadership.
Speaker 2:Especially like for burnout, do you find that most times more than not staying in their current, you know, either as an employment or as a business owner, or do you find that they normally pivot at this time?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Burnout is a big one. I think being proactive is always the answer. You know, trying to get ahead of it rather than waiting to do self care when you already feel the burnout. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:But if you need to switch up your environment, do it. Whether it's physically like, hey, can I get a desk closer to a window? Or actually switching positions or, you know, going after what you want in this life. I but think the best way to feel engaged in your work is to find something that is both equally challenging and interesting to you, not just a survival necessity.
Speaker 2:What were you thinking in terms of like for yourself or the effects on other people when the pandemic hit and thinking about what everybody was going through at that time?
Speaker 1:Man, yeah, that's a loaded question.
Speaker 2:Because that was a big pivot moment is what I'm saying. A lot of people to me, they seem to kinda take the opportunity to do just that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Some people used it to recoup, right? They realized how fast paced they were going and realized their body actually needed that sort of rest, you know? And then you have other people who really took it extremely hard, had a lot of, you know, devastation during that time. So it really, like I said, that one's a loaded question.
Speaker 1:I saw so many different reactions and outcomes during that time, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, myself as well, but it took that kind of wide reaching devastating moment in our history, our time, because we saw the leading was black women coming out and creating their own businesses during that time. So, you know, to me, I feel like give people an opportunity to have a break, a moment, whatever, so that they can breathe and think about some things. It kind of gives them that opportunity to do just that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like the word break, breathe, think, right? We need a break to be able to breathe, to actually think otherwise we're just in automatic autopilot mode.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. You know, that was a once in a lifetime, we hope it's
Speaker 1:a once in a lifetime kind
Speaker 2:of a thing, but it took that is my point. So why do so many high achieving individuals struggle silently rather than asking for help? We feel like people will see me in a different way because they believe that I'm so together or something like that.
Speaker 1:It absolutely can lean into self image or reputation, but it also could lean into like those suppressed parts of yourself that you discourage because you think negatively about it. If I take a break, that means I'm lazy. If I slow down, that means I'm careless. If I let this get in the way, that means that I'm neglecting how serious the situation is, but that's not true. You know, balance is really how you keep that momentum and the power and energy to do so.
Speaker 2:Or will they feel like they think I'm weak or something like that? Can't stand out of quit?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Internal narratives, you know, what they think other people might think or say about them. It's unfamiliar because I've always been this way. If I just switch up now, what's that going to look like? That's scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all kinds of things.
Speaker 2:Well, tell me about people operating from a deregulated nervous system. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah. When your nervous system is just on the fritz all out of whack, again, you're in survival mode. I know I keep saying that, but usually you have a fight, flight, freeze, or fawn response, very reactive. Fight is when you just push forward. You're not thinking.
Speaker 1:You get defensive. You maybe start talking over people. You know? Flight is you're avoidant. You change the conversation when things start to get vulnerable too hard.
Speaker 1:Freeze is you stay stuck. It's inaction. I am actually going to do nothing. Right? And then fawn is when you start overexplaining, over placating, overjustifying just to keep the needs of the others happy, and then you end up neglecting yourself.
Speaker 1:All of those are survival responses, and they happen when your nervous system is dysregulated because your brain's trying to keep you safe, not really trying to be functional or constructive.
Speaker 2:Well, how do you take care of your nervous system then?
Speaker 1:Taking care of your proactive will be the word of the day. Okay. Being proactive, seriously. But doing things that, you know, aren't out of obligation all the time. Sometimes make opportunities for yourself to feel enjoyment, to be engaged with something that is fun, to be around people who you value.
Speaker 1:Everything doesn't have to be go, go, go, go, go, you know, productivity, productivity results, right? Just making room for you to be human, you know?
Speaker 2:Right. Okay, proactive about it. To me, your nervous system leads to things like stress and as therefore it's really affecting your health and everything.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, yep, that ties right into it.
Speaker 2:Today, the mental health and just the whole effects of our body, which leads to physical health and the challenges also too, because more and more we're being stripped of opportunities to even get adequate you know, health from our physicians, the whole health system as it was. So it's just really a challenge overall and we cannot say how much and then not to mention that, we're talking about leaders today, but I really feel for our young people who's just being inundated by all of this technological advancement and political landscape and, you know, societal things that come upon them. It's just a lot. I have a son, he's 32 and thank the Lord that, you know, he's in a good place, but there were times that it was just a challenge and it was a struggle. So I, you know, just all the things that they have to be faced with.
Speaker 2:As a leader, to manage all of that, I think that you cannot talk about mental health and what we need to be able to overcome that enough because it is just so pervasive in what we do today.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It all goes back to what you said, decreasing stress, I think changing your mindset and the way you think, reframing the inner narrative, that way you're speaking to yourself and about things. Mhmm. And vitality for sure. What's your sleep look like?
Speaker 1:Your nutrition, the things you can control. Taking care of your life force. Right? What you're eating. Your life you get.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Love that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Absolutely. Movement, move your body, those sort of things also, they contribute to your well-being.
Speaker 2:Okay, and so do you see a difference for those who are in a workplace like in the corporate world or in an office or what have you versus the, entrepreneur that's really carrying a lot on their shoulders all the time.
Speaker 1:There's a huge difference, but again, it goes back to your personality and your capacity. Some people like the structured environment of the corporate setting. Right? You know, there are
Speaker 2:people that, I was just getting ready to say, there are people that like, I gotta make sure I have me a paycheck every, you know, the two pay periods or whatever it is. And there are those kind of like me, I am an entrepreneur to my heart because I'm a creator as well, right? So I don't wanna lose that and that flexibility and so there's advantages to it, but you know. Creative and flexible,
Speaker 1:all of those things. Absolutely go into that entrepreneurship, being able to self lead, right? And there's nothing wrong with being on either side, you know, but everyone's built different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's different coping mechanisms or whatnot for whichever camp you lie in. Absolutely. Okay, well again, it'd be interesting to see the stress level, a chart between those who work in corporate as a professional or something like that versus an entrepreneur as like, who is the most stressed? Oh my goodness. You know, it'd be interesting to see that.
Speaker 1:It would be very interesting to see that. Yeah. And I think those results would change throughout the seasons, But, yeah, entrepreneurship will have you pull Well,
Speaker 2:they're entrepreneurs. When we're on a roll, we're feeling good.
Speaker 1:Right? Exactly. And so Exactly.
Speaker 2:And and so yeah. So it it could be a roller coaster, ebb and flow kind of a thing, but I that would be interesting. I'm probably gonna look and see, because there's a prior report for everything.
Speaker 1:I'm interested in seeing that and there's for sure a report. Right. We collect data on everything.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. Well, we're gonna come back in a moment, but before we do, please give everybody where they can find you.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You can find me on all social media platforms whenthemindclicks, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, all of those, whenthemindclicks. And my website is www.whenthemindclicks. I'm not gonna make it hard for y'all to find me.
Speaker 2:Okay. Alright. Love that. I love the quick and simple. So when we come back in our final segment, we'll discuss the authenticity, practical strategies for creating more joy, because that was the purpose of this, interview here to do about more joy and then the tools listeners can begin using immediately in their own lives.
Speaker 2:This is the block power hour. I am your host, Sarah Harris, and we will be right back. Welcome back to the block power hour. In the studio today, miss Tiera Click. She is a joy strategist.
Speaker 2:Yes. She is founder of When the Mind Clicks. And we are talking about joy here today. We are talking about more joy. And so it's about authentic leadership and the practical tools for joy.
Speaker 2:So welcome back to the Block Power Hour. I thank you for being here.
Speaker 1:Having a good time, let's keep it going.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. So you describe authenticity as a leadership skill and with that, why is authenticity so powerful? People really respect authenticity. They respect when
Speaker 1:you show up as yourself, and that is how you show up as the strongest version of yourself. When you take that mask that you show in the world and combine it with that part of yourself that you felt like you need to suppress and you let them have a conversation and you show up as your real self, people can feel that. And that's somebody they trust more and you feel more confident in your decisions when you show up authentically.
Speaker 2:Yes. Especially with a lot of videos and content and information that we see, people can tell when you're fake.
Speaker 1:Oh, 100%. They absolutely can. We're humans. It's like, it's just natural. They may not be able to sniff out what it is, but we can tell when someone's not being authentic.
Speaker 2:Indeed, indeed. And as we know that that's what we gravitate more, you know, a lot of times call PC or whatnot. And so it's just be yourself, be yourself, be who you are. You may think that, you know, people may see you in a certain way or whatever, but everybody has their quirks, you know?
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:So be yourself. Absolutely,
Speaker 1:it's liberating.
Speaker 2:It's very much so, very much so. I feel like that can go a long way towards your mental health, right? And it helps towards that imposter syndrome and everything. So be yourself, okay. So how can people identify when they're performing a version of themselves rather than living in the authentic selves?
Speaker 1:Yeah. If you're constantly micromanaging certain parts or aspects of yourself, or you notice you always feel regret or shame after you say certain things, you kind of are contradicting your internal values or thoughts, that's how you kinda know you're out of alignment. There's no problem. You know? It's no blame.
Speaker 1:It's just to get more aware of what you truly want. And you'll know you're operating from your authenticity when you feel a sense of relief with your decisions or even empowerment, you know, I can go back and correct that. And you feel a little more strength about what you've done, even if it was a mistake.
Speaker 2:And you know, again, we say be authentic, right? But there's a place and time for everything.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. No, the inner work still needs to happen. I'm not telling people to go, know, berserk.
Speaker 2:Do need to discern where the line is.
Speaker 1:Discernment will be the next word of the day. Okay, okay, good, good. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Exactly, well, and you need to practice that and you really need to hone in on, it's not being fake or anything, it's just like, draw that line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's also not my way or the highway, my world, you're living in it. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly. So what role does optimism play in resilience and long term success?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I want to start with just clarifying the word optimism and what it means to me. And that is just the ability to seeing things working out, being able to perceive something working in your favor, seeing a different outcome. I feel like people hear the word optimism, and they think smiling ear to ear and cartwheels and, you know, everything's butterflies and rainbow. No.
Speaker 1:Do you have the perspective and ability to see this working in your favor and have a little hope about things working out? That's all it is. And that supports anyone in business growing something, being resilient, building a foundation.
Speaker 2:And what daily habits or practices would help people to cultivate greater joy in their lives?
Speaker 1:Look up Martin Seligman's PERMA Model, P E R M A plus. It just stands for positive emotions, engagement, relationships, meaning, achievement, and vitality. Check that out when you can and just do a little checklist when you're home. Am I experiencing these letters? And you'll know if you're you're working towards some more joy in your life.
Speaker 2:Okay. Repeat that one more time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. PERMA plus, p e r m a, and then a plus sign. So positive emotions, engagement, relationships, meaning, achievement, and the plus stands for vitality.
Speaker 2:Okay. And who
Speaker 1:Martin Seligman. He's a educator and psychologist.
Speaker 2:Okay. Wonderful. Perma Plus.
Speaker 1:Perma Plus. Yeah, check out that Perma. That's my bread and butter. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Is there a workshop on that? I think you have a workshop coming up.
Speaker 1:I do have a workshop coming up actually in Venice, California, July 13. It'll be on a Monday at 06:30. Tickets are on sale, go get that. Okay. I'm always talking about PERMA.
Speaker 1:So you will hear more about the PERMA model and how to actually apply it in your daily life when you come out to that workshop.
Speaker 2:Okay. Okay. So if you want to learn more about that, you got to tune in on, what was that July?
Speaker 1:July 13, which is a Monday
Speaker 2:in Venice, California. In Venice, California, wonderful. So, you know, you can glean so much more from Ms. Click when you come out and listen to her live. I hope that you do take advantage of that.
Speaker 2:If you could leave listeners with one tool that they could implement today, what would that be?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. First of all, four, seven, eight deep breathing will always work. Do a breathing in through your nose for seconds, hold it for seven, release out of your mouth for eight, and just name the emotion you're feeling. Just pause and
Speaker 2:do Name the emotion.
Speaker 1:Right. Okay. But if there's one other thing I'd leave listeners with, it's that elevating your impact, embodying joy, and being a better leader isn't about knowing everything. It's about knowing yourself. I found that many people shy away from the healing and the regulation process because it requires confrontation with yourself.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. But in reality, you can only intentionally strengthen or unlearn what you're aware of. So when you able to do that, that's when the mind clicks.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's when the mind clicks. I love it, I love it. I know for me, whenever something is nagging at me, I know that something is really affecting me. I just, I name it. I call it out, I name it and then I say to myself, why?
Speaker 2:Why is this affecting No, really.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, call it out. I see you. Right. And now question why. Exactly.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:And then I'm like, okay, that's that's it. You're not gonna affect me. You're not gonna bother me because I'm allowing it to affect me. If that's the case, then who's to blame?
Speaker 1:Who's to blame?
Speaker 2:If you continue to allow it to affect you, then you're, you know, it's on you to change it up. And again, I go back, which always gets me is that I'm not the only one dealing with this. Absolutely not. There are millions of others that are dealing with this. And so it's about how you react to it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And you hear all these different words and terms I've been using, they exist because so many people deal with them that somebody came up with words for them. So you're not alone.
Speaker 2:Not alone. Not alone. Alright. So one more. How can people connect with you and learn more about your work?
Speaker 1:W w w dot whenthemindclicks dot com. Feel free to reach out. There's a space to email me there if you need workshops, seminars, someone for a public speaking engagement, maybe just some individual sessions. All of that's available on the website. And, again, all of my social media has content, especially my TikTok.
Speaker 1:If you go on my TikTok, you'll watch some educational fun videos on what I talk about, and I try my best to break it down, you know, in a way that's not so clinical, but sometimes I just slip into that clinical language. But check out my TikTok when the mind clicks, and I think you'll really find some good stuff there.
Speaker 2:I love that. I've been told that I should get on TikTok myself.
Speaker 1:Get on TikTok. My God. Get on TikTok.
Speaker 2:I got another one. I'm doing my best with what we have already, but okay. TikTok, here we come.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay. All right, so real quick, we have some block fire questions that we're going to get out at you and just one word or one small phrase that kind of come to mind real quick.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm ready.
Speaker 2:Okay, I said real click. Did you hear that? Snaps of
Speaker 1:that. What?
Speaker 2:All right, so what's one word that describes your leadership style? Liberation. Okay, okay. So that means that you operate from a free styling free
Speaker 1:free. Motion kind of of my creativity, freedom and not being so hard on myself, taking things so seriously. Really just, not overthinking things and giving myself some mental freedom.
Speaker 2:Okay, what's your favorite way to recharge?
Speaker 1:My favorite way to recharge, honestly, probably watching some anime or going for a walk. Okay, anime. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Love that, love that. And then are you a morning person or a night owl?
Speaker 1:That's a tough one. You know? What?
Speaker 2:What is it? When do you shut off?
Speaker 1:Like, do you Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know,
Speaker 1:the The night blend that blows into the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Does it blend over from the night to the morning?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Blending over from the night to the morning, but if you can get me up around 4AM, that's when I'm I'm the best. That's my apex self.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, guess we would qualify that as a morning person.
Speaker 1:We'll lock it in as a morning Good
Speaker 2:stuff, good stuff. All right, one more. What's one book that influenced your life?
Speaker 1:I'm currently reading Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself by Doctor. Joe Dispenza. And he really talks about what I discuss in regards to just blooming into the most authentic version of yourself, but not anchoring yourself to the past. So that so far has been a really good read and it aligns with everything I talk about, but he takes a scientific approach using like quantum methods and neuroscience. So he's talking about exactly what I'm talking about, but in a scientific lens.
Speaker 1:So I really love what I'm reading so far.
Speaker 2:Okay, what's the title of that book again?
Speaker 1:Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, anybody out there would love to read that, then go for it.
Speaker 1:Check it out.
Speaker 2:It's been such a pleasure having you here on the Block Power Hour. I think it's vital for people to be really tuned in with their mental health. Absolutely. And I know that we have a lot of listeners that are leaders or even thinking about moving into that space. So we do hope that this conversation has meant something to you.
Speaker 2:So I thank you for coming into the studio and congratulations to you on all that you do.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:We will always be glad to have When the Mind Clicks come back and glad to have you a part of the Block Power Hour. This has been the Block Power Hour. Check us out on Instagram and soon TikTok. Block Power hour. That's b l o c power hour.
Speaker 2:I am your host, Sarah Harris, and we will be back with another banging episode next week as well. And until then, you take care. Innovation in our blood. Break the wind I strive. Power in the message never dimming our pride.
